for our free usaa retirement guide, call 877-242-usaa. >>> now, you are talking down to the american people. if you think we are that stupid to accept this! >> that was the late senator arlen sector of pennsylvania back in 2009, facing an angry crowd of constituents, railing against the affordable care act. back with me now, the brain trusts. you remember those -- >> good times. >> you remember those, you remember those and we could sit here for another hour and play video clips from those. are you surprised at how far we've come since those town hall meetings at all? >> not at all. i regularly talk to conservatives and republicans on the trail. >> and they're still that mad? >> they're still that mad. if you don't get away in three minutes, you'll hear an hour-long discussion about how bad obama care is. >> at what point in our society do people say, we fought the good fight, this was our idea, but we acknowledge the high court, again, dominated by conservatives at this point, the high court signed off on it. even some gop governors are enforcing it. let's move on to another issue.